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		<title>By: Campagnolo Cyclist</title>
		<link>http://dlridings.se/blog/2009/11/29/holdsworth-mistral-on-the-road-again/comment-page-1/#comment-46505</link>
		<dc:creator>Campagnolo Cyclist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 04:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we had a bike like this do you think the gap between us and the podium of the Tour de France would be a bit closer? We can dream!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we had a bike like this do you think the gap between us and the podium of the Tour de France would be a bit closer? We can dream!</p>
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		<title>By: Campagnolo Biker</title>
		<link>http://dlridings.se/blog/2009/11/29/holdsworth-mistral-on-the-road-again/comment-page-1/#comment-46346</link>
		<dc:creator>Campagnolo Biker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you actually sit down and look at all the different components you suddenly realise what am amazing and often overlooked feat of engineering it is</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you actually sit down and look at all the different components you suddenly realise what am amazing and often overlooked feat of engineering it is</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, a Cinelli stem I have ... but try to find new handlebars for it :-)

Today&#039;s &quot;standard&quot; seems to be 26mm. The difference between 26.4 (or 26.5 in my case) and 26 mm may not sound like much, but they say (I really don&#039;t know) that if you put smaller bars in the stem and just tighten it up that it will cause stress on the alloy that might eventually cause it to crack, just when you don&#039;t want it to (while pulling up hard).

The stem is fine, but I&#039;d like to have bars that are about 45cm wide (or more). I can probably raise the stem a bit to make me happy. I too have a stockpile of some stuff. Fortunate circumstance of never throwing anything away.

You must have kept busy as a father :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, a Cinelli stem I have &#8230; but try to find new handlebars for it <img src='http://dlridings.se/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Today&#8217;s &#8220;standard&#8221; seems to be 26mm. The difference between 26.4 (or 26.5 in my case) and 26 mm may not sound like much, but they say (I really don&#8217;t know) that if you put smaller bars in the stem and just tighten it up that it will cause stress on the alloy that might eventually cause it to crack, just when you don&#8217;t want it to (while pulling up hard).</p>
<p>The stem is fine, but I&#8217;d like to have bars that are about 45cm wide (or more). I can probably raise the stem a bit to make me happy. I too have a stockpile of some stuff. Fortunate circumstance of never throwing anything away.</p>
<p>You must have kept busy as a father <img src='http://dlridings.se/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bill harting</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill harting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 13:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should stress that I am not restoring my Bianchi, but still using the parts I have on hand. My youngest daughter was quite a racer in her days (fourth in national time trials by a couple hundredths of a second) and I was her pit mechanic, support crew, flat-fixer, driver). So I still have a stockpile of parts. And a Cinelli stem. I&#039;m so retro (ha).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should stress that I am not restoring my Bianchi, but still using the parts I have on hand. My youngest daughter was quite a racer in her days (fourth in national time trials by a couple hundredths of a second) and I was her pit mechanic, support crew, flat-fixer, driver). So I still have a stockpile of parts. And a Cinelli stem. I&#8217;m so retro (ha).</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bill. I&#039;ve found most of the things I need. (The brakes are a real problem, but I have two straddle wires I can strip from a contemporary Raleigh competition bike if push comes to shove. I can easily pick up new brakes for that bike).

I&#039;m not real pious about the renovation. I don&#039;t try to keep it true to its age. Instead, I&#039;m trying to renovate it in such a way that it will continue being a functional bike. I ordered a stem-converter:

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Profile-Profile-Design-Stem-Convertor-1-inch-Quill-to-1-1-8-inch-Threadless-20442.htm

Hmmm, looks like I got the last one. The link will say &quot;temporarily unavailable&quot; and then the page will go to the index after a few seconds. It looks like that, but it converts to 1 1/8 inch rather than 25.4mm:

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Coyote-VP-Ahead-Convertor-22.2-mm--25.4-mm-20395.htm

With that, I can use modern stems and replace the drop down bars. I could never get them high enough to use them in dropped down position and they are a bit too narrow. I&#039;m going with one of these:

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Modolo-Modolo-Yuma-Traveller-Multi-Position-Hybrid-Bars--Silver-15572.htm

or

http://www.cyclecomponents.com/2/sv/artiklar/racer_cross/komponenter-3/styren-2/race_cross/254-mm/nitto-randonneur-styre-silver-254-mm.html

The conversion gives me access to modern stems and various angles.

The Cinelli stem requires a 26.4 mm handlebar, Cinelli&#039;s old standard (that noone uses and that Cinelli gave up on in the 90&#039;ies). You can&#039;t find good 22.2 mm stems anymore since almost all modern bikes use the A-headset rather than the older kind. Talk about head-aches.

The parts are on the way. I still have the Karrimor racks (back and front) and the back one is as good as anything else out there, so I&#039;ll use it. I even have the panniers (front and back) but they need a little work. The elastic hooks tend to break on you, but I see that some newer bicycle bags are using the same set-up, so I can get new hooks and straps.

Thanks for looking! I&#039;ve got 120 km on it now. I about froze my toes off yesterday and that is no exaggeration. I was a little worried when I realized I had 30 minutes before I was home and I was getting a little worried about frost-bite. But I guess it takes a while to get frost-bite. It was 7 degrees below (centigrade).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bill. I&#8217;ve found most of the things I need. (The brakes are a real problem, but I have two straddle wires I can strip from a contemporary Raleigh competition bike if push comes to shove. I can easily pick up new brakes for that bike).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not real pious about the renovation. I don&#8217;t try to keep it true to its age. Instead, I&#8217;m trying to renovate it in such a way that it will continue being a functional bike. I ordered a stem-converter:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Profile-Profile-Design-Stem-Convertor-1-inch-Quill-to-1-1-8-inch-Threadless-20442.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Profile-Profile-Design-Stem-Convertor-1-inch-Quill-to-1-1-8-inch-Threadless-20442.htm</a></p>
<p>Hmmm, looks like I got the last one. The link will say &#8220;temporarily unavailable&#8221; and then the page will go to the index after a few seconds. It looks like that, but it converts to 1 1/8 inch rather than 25.4mm:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Coyote-VP-Ahead-Convertor-22.2-mm--25.4-mm-20395.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Coyote-VP-Ahead-Convertor-22.2-mm&#8211;25.4-mm-20395.htm</a></p>
<p>With that, I can use modern stems and replace the drop down bars. I could never get them high enough to use them in dropped down position and they are a bit too narrow. I&#8217;m going with one of these:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Modolo-Modolo-Yuma-Traveller-Multi-Position-Hybrid-Bars--Silver-15572.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Modolo-Modolo-Yuma-Traveller-Multi-Position-Hybrid-Bars&#8211;Silver-15572.htm</a></p>
<p>or</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cyclecomponents.com/2/sv/artiklar/racer_cross/komponenter-3/styren-2/race_cross/254-mm/nitto-randonneur-styre-silver-254-mm.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyclecomponents.com/2/sv/artiklar/racer_cross/komponenter-3/styren-2/race_cross/254-mm/nitto-randonneur-styre-silver-254-mm.html</a></p>
<p>The conversion gives me access to modern stems and various angles.</p>
<p>The Cinelli stem requires a 26.4 mm handlebar, Cinelli&#8217;s old standard (that noone uses and that Cinelli gave up on in the 90&#8242;ies). You can&#8217;t find good 22.2 mm stems anymore since almost all modern bikes use the A-headset rather than the older kind. Talk about head-aches.</p>
<p>The parts are on the way. I still have the Karrimor racks (back and front) and the back one is as good as anything else out there, so I&#8217;ll use it. I even have the panniers (front and back) but they need a little work. The elastic hooks tend to break on you, but I see that some newer bicycle bags are using the same set-up, so I can get new hooks and straps.</p>
<p>Thanks for looking! I&#8217;ve got 120 km on it now. I about froze my toes off yesterday and that is no exaggeration. I was a little worried when I realized I had 30 minutes before I was home and I was getting a little worried about frost-bite. But I guess it takes a while to get frost-bite. It was 7 degrees below (centigrade).</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 12:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are excellent compositions and very interesting images, I specially liked those ones about the bike with landscape, but each one shows reasons to be here.Your images are inspiring, perhaps could be time to repair my bicycle. Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are excellent compositions and very interesting images, I specially liked those ones about the bike with landscape, but each one shows reasons to be here.Your images are inspiring, perhaps could be time to repair my bicycle. Regards</p>
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		<title>By: bill harting</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill harting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 02:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful bike and I&#039;m sure many miles/kilometers left in it. The Holdsworth tandem racer my wife and I borrowed many times in the &#039;80s was a wonderfully fast responsive machine -- for two! For parts, around here we no longer have old bike shops with cellars full of spares. You might look up the website Classic Rendezvous; they have a lot of info about classic bikes (steel is real). Also, ebay (forgive me) has a lot of obsolete bike parts; there might be some stuff there. But it looks like you&#039;re doing fine
-Bill (1986 Bianchi club racer mostly Campy but a Superbe rear derailleur -- Suntour sponsored our bike team for a few years. And a Brooks professional)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful bike and I&#8217;m sure many miles/kilometers left in it. The Holdsworth tandem racer my wife and I borrowed many times in the &#8217;80s was a wonderfully fast responsive machine &#8212; for two! For parts, around here we no longer have old bike shops with cellars full of spares. You might look up the website Classic Rendezvous; they have a lot of info about classic bikes (steel is real). Also, ebay (forgive me) has a lot of obsolete bike parts; there might be some stuff there. But it looks like you&#8217;re doing fine<br />
-Bill (1986 Bianchi club racer mostly Campy but a Superbe rear derailleur &#8212; Suntour sponsored our bike team for a few years. And a Brooks professional)</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no free-wheels on these Campagnolo hubs. They are threaded. You need a traditional free-wheel (sprockets and free-wheel in one unit). They are a dying, dying breed. They&#039;re not &quot;cassettes&quot;. You can&#039;t even find any on cyclecomponents.se. Sportex has some 14-28, I think. Sjscycles.co.uk has it too: http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Shimano-Shimano-MF-TZ20-6-Speed-Hyperglide-Freewheel-14-28-18963.htm, but I just had to admit ... threaded hubs are out-dated.

But the problems didn&#039;t stop there. Once I had a modern (Shimano XT hub) and a 8-speed cassette, I found out that the Campagnolo Rally derailleur (&quot;touring&quot; model, long cage) didn&#039;t have enough swing to cover all the sprockets, only the first 7, so I was still stuck with 28 teeth (unless I filed off some of the body so that it would swing a little further). Fortunately I still had a Sun Tour BL GT and it worked perfectly. Shifts better than the Campagnolo too.

I was just going to order the Dia-Compe 750, but a few days ago I referred to them on Utsidan.se and yesterday, when I went in to order, they were gone. They&#039;ve been there for weeks. I guess they just had one single set and someone ordered them.

Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no free-wheels on these Campagnolo hubs. They are threaded. You need a traditional free-wheel (sprockets and free-wheel in one unit). They are a dying, dying breed. They&#8217;re not &#8220;cassettes&#8221;. You can&#8217;t even find any on cyclecomponents.se. Sportex has some 14-28, I think. Sjscycles.co.uk has it too: <a href="http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Shimano-Shimano-MF-TZ20-6-Speed-Hyperglide-Freewheel-14-28-18963.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product-Shimano-Shimano-MF-TZ20-6-Speed-Hyperglide-Freewheel-14-28-18963.htm</a>, but I just had to admit &#8230; threaded hubs are out-dated.</p>
<p>But the problems didn&#8217;t stop there. Once I had a modern (Shimano XT hub) and a 8-speed cassette, I found out that the Campagnolo Rally derailleur (&#8221;touring&#8221; model, long cage) didn&#8217;t have enough swing to cover all the sprockets, only the first 7, so I was still stuck with 28 teeth (unless I filed off some of the body so that it would swing a little further). Fortunately I still had a Sun Tour BL GT and it worked perfectly. Shifts better than the Campagnolo too.</p>
<p>I was just going to order the Dia-Compe 750, but a few days ago I referred to them on Utsidan.se and yesterday, when I went in to order, they were gone. They&#8217;ve been there for weeks. I guess they just had one single set and someone ordered them.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Thure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice bike. You could probably find some spares at www.sjscycles.com for instance long reaching brakes.

Do you need new hubs? May be it will be OK after cleaning and grease and oil in the freehub.

Thure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice bike. You could probably find some spares at <a href="http://www.sjscycles.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sjscycles.com</a> for instance long reaching brakes.</p>
<p>Do you need new hubs? May be it will be OK after cleaning and grease and oil in the freehub.</p>
<p>Thure</p>
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